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What's going on my YouTube fam?!? Today we have an in depth comparison between the two strongest balls that @bowlmotiv has to offer on the current ball chart the Alpha Jackal and the Forge Flare! Only one can be the champ for the strongest ball watch the video and you decide for yourself!!
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I plan on getting the Forge Flare, and my buddy is getting the Fatal Venom. Both look really good!
Both are really good ! I love tossing the flare !
Man, that Flare just DOES. NOT. stop moving!
It will be a great tournament addition.
I will have that, my Ghost, Flash, Blitz, Hydra, and Fatal. I might bring the Assassin too
That’s a great bag!!
Great comparison. Can’t wait for my flare!
Thanks !! I hope you like it !!
Hearing you say you use the Alpha on short, I’m like “whaaaa?” Maybe it’s the rev rate but I couldn’t imagine using that on short, the strongest ball I can use on short is a venom Shock Pearl lol
Urethane aside, typically stronger balls are used on shorter patterns. So they use up their energy right away and don’t overbook. Weaker equipment that stores more energy is harder to control on shorter patterns.
@TheVlad1616 yeah, but I can never get anything to hold on short patterns, even my strong rolly stuff hooks an absolute ton. I am a two hander, about 500+ rev rate, 17.5 mph, 45° axis rotation, about 10° tilt
On short you want balls that will burn up energy quick. So an alpha with like 500 or 1000 will roll out instantly and be really good on short !
@Gavin Winkler you also want to stay behind the ball more, and come up the back with your fingers. Too much on the side will cause a sharper reaction at the end of the pattern, and you don’t want that with 25+ feet of lane left.
@TheVlad1616 I try to do that, but sometimes I do slip around the ball a touch, and it just takes off
I’m getting the forge flare and the Jackal LE
Hope you love them !!
My game plan right now for Nationals is the Alpha Jackal, Blitz, and either the Fatal Venom or Jackal Flash (once I have thrown them both).
That’s an amazing start to the bag !!
The Forge Fire reminds me of a Hammer ball back in the day called the Jigsaw. Very similar downlane motion but the Fire looks to be a touch sooner. I killed it with that Jigsaw and I have to get the Fire because it matches up to my game very well.
You talking about the fire or the flare? Both are really good balls !!
Sorry, Flare.
Can you please help me? I started to get back into bowling. The balls I have now are hooking way too early for me. I want a less hooking ball. I want one that hooks less on fresh lanes. Thanks man.
Have you tried looking into the Thrill and/or the Hydra? Both of those balls are designed to be very long with not a ton of hook potential
I’m still waiting for a comparison video of the vsp and the fatal
That video won’t happen as I’ve said before. I don’t have a VSP and it’s discontinued so no way for me to get one. But the fatal will be earlier, more angular and more ball overall than the VSP
I appreciate that you’re honest about what balls are good at, and what they’re not. Lots of reviewers just hype up the new releases and say how they do X thing that last year’s release doesn’t do, as if the older ball is always worse. I mean, I get it – brand reps are brand reps, but honesty goes a long way in helping customers trust your brand.
I don’t like to say that every ball is the greatest because the reality is that that’s not true. I like to be upfront and honest with my reviews to gain trust with everyone. So when I make a recommendation it’s not filled with bias but filled with truth. I’ll never recommend a ball just cause it’s the newest ball
I am a person that does not have a lot of revs, and I throw about 15 mph. Would you recommend the forge flare for me?
Yes! Absolutely! The lower rev rate players will love the flare because of its ability to dig in the oil and still shape down lane!
Great video Louis / I love my Alpha jackal, got my Venom, & flare
NICE!!!
I love this new forge flare definitely a hook monster 0 to 60 really quick and great continuation threw the pins I really enjoyed throwing it
Right on! I LOVE this Flare!
Would the flare be a good ball matching it up with my Jackal Ghost?
The Forge Flare will be earlier and more ball overall vs the Ghost. The MXC cover on the Flare is insanely strong
Jackal Rising, Jackal LE-Tank Blitz pin down 2-3k grit-Tank Blitz Pin up probably around 1000 grit-Tank Covert
That looks like a great set up!
You looked to have a better reaction with the Alpha
That’s interesting cause I really love the Flare !
Hey Lou, how does this ball compare to the Motiv Venom Shock? I have the venom shock and I find it sometimes doesn’t break in enough when I dont put enough hook onto the ball (I normally bowl on house lanes).
Both of these balls will be substantially more than the venom shock!
@MotivLou Thanks for the info!
I’m a two-handed bowler and I’m usually around 15 mph with around 400 revs. Do you think this either of these balls would be a good fit or would I need to look at something with less grab in the oil?
That ALL depends on how much oil you’re bowling on ypu know
Which ball would you use on a 52 foot pattern
Between these two the flare